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"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Much ado about nothing has been made of the first stanza of the 2nd Amendment by anti-gun people.
A well regulated (well trained and well armed) militia (every man and or woman who is physically able and also a citizen), being necessary to to the security of a free state, (the right to protect your freedoms, your property, your safety, your rights, state's rights), the right of the people to keep and bear arms, (notice it says the right of the PEOPLE, not the militia), shall NOT be infringed. (not by the Federal Government, not by State's Government, not by ANYONE unless convicted of a felonious crime by a court of law).

"No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution)
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee)
" disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." (George Mason)
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)

This is also confirmed in the Freedman's Act of 1866, where Congress affirmed that newly freed slaves'  right to keep and bear arms could not be infringed by the several states.  If Americans did not have the right to keep and bear arms, and if this did not include the states, why would Congress confirm that ex-slaves' rights could not be infringed by the states in the Freedman's Act?

Which arms can the People own?   According to both George Mason and James Madison;
"The People shall have arms equivalent to that of what any infantryman can carry on his person."
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One thing we do know: Barack Obama continues to be a serious threat to gun owners. When it comes to Obama's stance on our Second Amendment rights, you need to be fully informed about what he has said and done during his entire political career.



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By Robert Dreyfus

This information may change
you and the life of your
family forever
You swore an oath on the
Bible to protect and defend
the Constitution. Are you willing to do whatever
you are told? Consider, if you elect to enforce an
unconstitutional law or directive, then you are
breaking your oath and forging the chains which
you, your children and your loved ones will one day
be bound. This makes you complicit in destroying
America’s freedoms, and placing you in a category
worse than the thugs you encounter.

If you are directed to confiscate weapons from law
abiding citizens—would you do it? If your reply is, “I
would follow orders” let me remind you the excuse, “I
was just following orders” was the excuse Nazi leaders
gave at the Nuremberg trials. The judges soundly
rejected this excuse and said, there is a higher moral
law to which people are required to follow. Principle
IV under the Nuremberg Principles states: “The fact
that a person acted pursuant to order of his
Government (or) a superior does not relieve him from
responsibility, provided a moral choice was in fact
possible to him.”

It will be a tragedy if we lose the liberty for which so
many Americans have given their lives to defend. What
will you say to your children when they ask, “Dad,
what did you do when our liberties were being taken
away?” For More Info:
The BILL OF RIGHTS are our fundamental,
inalienable rights. They define what it means to be a
free and independent people. They are the rights which
must exist to restrain government. Our Forefathers
knew that government, like fire had to be restrained.
They refused to ratify the Constitution until the rights
of citizens were protected by The Bill of Rights.


"A well regulated militia being necessary to the
security of a free State, the right of the people to keep
and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The Founders believed that the right to keep and bear
arms is a right so inherent to the individual that no
government could legitimately curtail it. This right was
so fundamental that it was a "natural" right," and the
mere thought that government could infringe upon this
right was unthinkable to the founders.

James Madison, the father of the Second
Amendment, said, "Americans have the right and
advantage of being armed unlike citizens of other
countries whose governments are afraid to trust the
People with arms." George Mason, co-author of the
Second Amendment, said, "To disarm the People is
the most effectual way to enslave them."

The 2nd Amendment is a crucial safeguard against
people being enslaved by their own rulers. The
Founders of this nation who fought the War of
Independence were fearful of a centralized
government. They knew that civil rulers prefer a
disarmed citizenry because they know that—a
disarmed citizenry is helpless to resist the growth of
centralized tyranny.

Q. What is the Militia?

A. It was best defined by George Mason, the co-author of
the Second Amendment who said, "Who are the Militia?
They consist now of the whole People, except for a few
public officers."

Q. Isn't there a danger in having a Militia?

A. Another Founder Alexander Hamilton stated,
"There is something so far fetched and so extravagant
in the idea of danger to liberty from the militia, that
one is at a loss whether to treat it with gravity:
whether to consider as a disingenuous artifice to instill
prejudices at any price. Where in the name of
common-sense are our fears to end if we may not trust
our sons, our brothers, our neighbors, our fellowcitizens?
What shadow of danger can there be from
men who are daily mingling with the rest of their
countrymen and who participate with them in the
same feelings, sentiments, habits and interests?"

Q. What about the many laws restricting firearms?

A. It is impossible for a law, which violates the
Constitution, to be valid. “All laws which are
repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.”
Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176,
(1803). “When rights secured by the Constitution are
involved, there can be no rule making or legislation
which would abrogate them.” Miranda vs. Arizona, 384
US 436 p. 491. “An unconstitutional act is not law; it
confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no
protection; it creates no office; it is in legal
contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never
been passed.” Norton vs. Shelby County 118 US 425 p.
442. “No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law
and no courts are bound to enforce it.” 16 AM Jur 2nd,
Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256.

What the Constitution says the government can do—is all
it is authorized to do, nothing more. If it is not given to
the government in the Constitution—it is retained by the
people, and government cannot legally interfere with any
of these retained rights.

There should be no concern that law abiding Americans
possess weapons. There should be great concern when
the State is the only entity possessing weapons. The first
thing all tyrants do, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro,
Pol Pot and countless others whose goal is to exercise
dictatorial control, is confiscate weapons so that people
are helpless to resist. An example is the Holocaust. If
Jews had the means to defend themselves, it is unlikely
the Holocaust would have taken place in Nazi Germany,
or the purges in Russia, or the genocide in Cambodia.
Consider, during the 20th Century, over 262 million
people were killed by their government after having first
lost their means of self defense.

Tragically politicians have systematically undermined the
right to keep and bear arms. There are hundreds of laws
on the books which legally regulate the sale, carrying, and
type of weapon to be owned. Is the Constitution the law
of the land or it is only window dressing to ignore
whenever it becomes inconvenient? Following hurricane
Katrina, law enforcement in New Orleans confiscated
weapons from law abiding citizens, thus effectually
removing the citizen’s ability to defend themselves.

Tyrants and demagogues use any excuse to diminish our
rights. Do not follow the orders of anyone who asks
you to confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens.

From American Patriot News, 2-28-13, Vol. 2. Issue 4

Colorado Gun Legislative Assault

From: Dudley Brown [
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 
2013 09:00:00


Please pass this on so hopefully as many of those that this concerns will be able to review the below info.....Also Remember the Dick Act.

God Bless Our America.  See all the below info and attachment.


From: "Kathy Hawkins" 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:22:46 PM
Subject: FDW: It's Time to Act

Senate President John Morse has scheduled ALL the anti-gun bills to be heard in two different Senate Committees on Monday, including his newly introduced Backdoor "Assault Weapon" ban. 

That’s right, Morse is trying to ram billionaire-playboy Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s New York gun ban agenda through the state senate as fast as possible.
All gun rights activists are encouraged to attend, and politely voice their opposition to these outrageous attacks on our gun rights.
The committees will both meet at 10:30 am on Monday, March 4th.
The Senate Judiciary Committee (Old Supreme Court Chambers, second floor of the Capitol) will hear:
  • SB-195: Prohibit Colorado citizens from taking online CCW training courses
  • SB-196: Morse’s De Facto "Assault Weapons" ban.
  • HB-1224Bans all magazines that hold more than 15 rounds.
State Affairs Committee (Senate Committee RM 356, third floor of the Capitol) will hear:
  • HB-1226: Bans armed self-defense on college campuses; expanding criminal safe-zones to all state college and university campuses.
  • HB-1228Imposes a Jim Crow-style gun tax on all firearm purchases. This legislation has no limit on the amount the CBI could charge for a background check.
  • HB-1229: Bans the private sale of firearms and expands background checks/gun registration for all Colorado gun owners.
Witnesses in each committee will be given a number indicating the order in which they will testify (think Deli Counter numbered tickets).
Each witness will be given THREE (3) minutes TOTAL to speak on any/all of the bills being heard before that specific committee. This will hopefully allow all interested citizens the ability to testify before both committees with the knowledge that they will not lose their place in line in either of the two committees.
If you do plan on attending, please have your comments well prepared and practiced to ensure that they are within the allowed three minute time period.
The most important thing you can do right now though, is turn up the heat in the state senate.
Please re-read my e-mail from yesterday, and contact the State Senators listed below.
-- Dudley 

Forever West: Constitutional Carry Begins in Wyoming

Independence Day weekend was especially meaningful for constitutionalists and gun rights proponents in Wyoming, as July 1 marked the beginning of the state’s constitutional carry law. The bill, which allows residents to carry firearms without a permit, was passed by the Wyoming House in a 49-9 vote and subsequently signed into law by Governor Matt Mead on March 2, 2011.

Constitutional carry is basically defined as the unrestricted carry of firearms. In accordance with the new measure Wyoming residents are free to carry a gun, openly or concealed, without the need for a permit. Wyoming now joins three other states – Alaska, Arizona and Vermont – in allowing the practice. The state will continue its concealed carry permitting process for residents who wish to carry in other states. Most states include concealed carry permit reciprocity with Wyoming.

- See more at:

Cuomo Asked by Judge About Need for Speed in NY Gun Suit

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and leaders of the legislature were ordered by a judge to justify by March 11 why they expedited passage of the state’s new gun- control law.

State Supreme Court Justice Judge Gerald Connolly asked for the explanation in a lawsuit claiming Cuomo and legislators abused their discretion in waiving the usual three-day period between the time a bill is introduced and when it’s voted on. The measure was presented to the Senate and passed on Jan. 14. It cleared the Assembly on Jan. 15, the day Cuomo signed it.

Connolly told the governor and lawmakers to file papers showing why he shouldn’t issue a temporary injunction blocking the new law from taking effect.

We The People of New York Inc., a Queensbury, New York- based group that says its goal is to hold elected officials accountable to the state and federal constitutions, filed the complaint Jan. 25, arguing the gun measure is unconstitutional and was enacted improperly.

In addition to Cuomo, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, and Dean Skelos and Jeff Klein, who share leadership of the state Senate were also named as defendants in the lawsuit.


State to go to court March 11 over gun law

Robert Schulz, the lead plaintiff in the case to toss out the gun law, provides documents to reporters at the Capitol on Friday.
Robert Schulz, the lead plaintiff in the case to toss out the gun law, provides documents to reporters at the Capitol on Friday. / By Haley Viccaro, Albany Bureau

ALBANY — A state judge has accepted a constitutional challenge to the so-called NY SAFE Act after opponents filed a complaint Thursday.

State Supreme Court Judge Gerald Connolly signed an order Friday directing Gov. Andrew Cuomo and legislative leaders to “show cause” in court March 11 that the law should not be enjoined.

According to a gun-rights group leading the complaint, We The People of New York, Inc., 1,256 plaintiffs from 58 New York counties filed a constitutional challenge in the Albany County court Thursday. The complaint argues that Cuomo’s “message of necessity,” used to push the bill through the Legislature without the required three-day waiting period, included misrepresentations and violates the state constitution.

Cuomo spokesman Richard Azzopardi responded to the lawsuit in an e-mail. He said: “We believe the law is, and the process was, valid and constitutional.”

The lawsuit also names Senate Republican Leader Dean Skelos, R-Nassau County; Independent Democratic Conference Leader Jeffrey Klein, D-Bronx; and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan.

“Contrary to what the message of necessity said, the NY SAFE Act does not immediately ban the possession or ownership of an estimated one million assault weapons currently in use by New York citizens,” the group said. “Nor does it immediately ban the purchase and sale of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices between individuals.”

The message of necessity reads: “Some weapons are so dangerous, and some ammunition devices are so lethal, that New York State must act without delay to prohibit their continued sale and possession in the state in order to protect its children, first responders and citizens as soon as possible. This bill, if enacted, would do so by immediately banning the ownership, purchase and sale of assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices.”


More NY stuff:

A Tale of Two Cities     


  Chicago , IL

   Houston , TX


  2.7 million

   2.15 million

Median HH income



% African-American



% Hispanic



% Asian



% non-Hispanic White




A reasonably similar matchup -until:  


Chicago, IL  

 Houston, TX  

Concealed carry gun law:    



# of gun stores


84 dedicated gun shops and1,500 places to buy guns
(Walmart, etc.)

Homicides, 2012



Homicides per 100k



Average January
high temp, F



Democrat Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.

PA County Passes Anti-Ban Resolution

  Pennsylvania county: New gun laws won't apply here

With gun rights coming under fire across the border in New York State, the Susquehanna County commissioners spoke out by resolution Wednesday in favor of the Second Amendment.

Republican Commissioner Michael Giangrieco said the issues in New York prompted him to address the matter... 

Proposed CO Law Would Effectively Make Mfg., Dist, Sale, Ownership of Most Semi_Automatic Rifles Impossible.

Second Amendment Foundation

BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation has warned the City of Guntersville, Ala. to drop its effort to pass an emergency citizen disarmament ordinance or face legal action.
Guntersville Mayor Leigh Dollar is reportedly working on a proposal – to be discussed at the city council’s March 4 meeting – that would allow police to confiscate firearms from allegedly “unruly” citizens during an emergency, such as the aftermath of a storm.
“The city of Guntersville has no legal authority to adopt or enforce such an ordinance,” said SAF Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb in a letter to Guntersville City Attorney Dan Warnes.
He also asserted that the city’s existing tax on firearms dealers and a prohibition on carrying firearms at farmers’ markets are also violations of state law.
Last year, SAF launched a pilot project in two states that calls attention to local ordinances that are in violation of state laws. The organization has gotten very good cooperation from communities in Virginia and Washington state, with but one exception. The City of Oak Harbor, Wash. initially balked at repealing a decades-old ban on guns in city parks, until SAF threatened a lawsuit and inspired a huge public turnout at a council meeting in January, resulting in the ordinance’s repeal.
“We recall vividly what happened after Hurricane Katrina,” Gottlieb said. “New Orleans police forcefully disarmed peaceful, law-abiding citizens for no good reason until we stepped in with a federal lawsuit and stopped it. Local public officials occasionally need to be reminded that they were elected to serve the public, not rule over their constituents or nullify their constitutional rights.
“What happened in New Orleans can never be allowed to happen again on American soil,” he insisted. “Evidently Mayor Dollar has forgotten that civil rights travesty, but we didn’t.”
The Second Amendment Foundation ( is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.


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"The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and for people, equally in war and peace, and it covers with its shield of protection all classes of men, at all times and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of men that any of its great provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government."

– Ex Parte Milligan (1866)


Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government ; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen.
I remain, dear sir,
Your faithful friend and servant,

John Jay. 


Calling Ron Paul "out of the mainstream" is a double-edged sword, because it also means he can’t possibly be responsible for the condition of the country today. 

<!--[if !supportLists]-->-        - <!--[endif]-->Thomas E. Woods, Jr.


 A guy named Reggie Love leaving the White House to get a degree at the Wharton School of Business. I guess he realized you can't learn anything about economics in the Obama White House.

- Jay Leno

Laws and regulations which violate the Constitution are not obligatory upon any free man. 

(believed to be from George Washington.)


  “We’re at that awkward stage where it’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

- Claire Wolf


Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the chairman of the National Transitional Council and de fact president, had already declared that Libyan laws in future would have Sharia, the Islamic code, as its "basic source".
-       The Telegraph (good job Barack!) 


Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable     - Robert F. Kennedy


 "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -- Albert Einstein


The four boxes of LIBERTY:
1. soap
2. ballot
3. jury
4. ammo that order!


"The actual need for a service, its relevance and value is always subordinate to the bureaucracy. This is the difference from the private sector: you go into a shop, and the sales assistant asks, 'Can I be of assistance to you, sir?' You go into a government agency: 'Get to the back of the queue and wait until you are called!”'

-       Alistair Mcleod



 "Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline."  

– Barack Hussein Obama 


“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

-Oscar Wilde


“Anyone with an Obama 2012 Bumper Sticker is a Threat to the Gene Pool”

Congressman Allen West


“The Only People Who Don’t Want to Disclose the Truth are Those with Something to Hide."

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro


"If it takes a village to raise your kid, you’re in the wrong country."

-  Seen by Tim Clack II


"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Soebarkah Bounel


"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum. " 

- Noam Chomsky


"Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself." -

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro (we are, Barry)


"…whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force…"

Thomas Jefferson, Federal v. Consolidated Government


“Better to be paralyzed from the neck down than the neck up”

Charles Krauthammer.


"Sublata causa, tollitur effectus" (Remove the  cause and the effect will cease)

 "Civilization and anarchy are only seven meals apart"                          

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