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Will YOU Save Freedom? Catch The Tea Party Wave

 

DSC01648Tea Partiers protest Obamacare and legal pretzel logic of the Roberts Court. Photo by David Stewart

More photos start HERE and HERE

The lively protest was held near the VC Government center, on the corner of Victoria and Telephone. This is a common gathering spot, since it is the most visible evidence of government in the county, although our county govt. is not our biggest worry by far (we don't consider our military bases to be that, since DoD is merely a servant of govt.).

 

There were flags, some upside down to signal distress, signs, such as Repeal Obamacare, Obamacare with a skull and crossbones, "Obamacare Needs End of Life Counselling," "Death Panels," "Biggest Tax Increase in History- Thanks, Obama," various comments on taxes and unconstitutional weasel words from legislators and judges alike.

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Most participants in the rally reacted in less than 24 hours, some considerably less, to be here. Some only found out about it at work and went directly there.

 

Background

 

After a long battle, dating back to 2009, Obamacare was passed, amid allegedly illegal tactics, eventually culminating in 26 states suing the U.S. and the Supreme Court upholding the monstrous Obamacare law, now officially the largest tax increase in history. It is also the biggest shift of power and economic activity to government control in history and probably the biggest collection of Bill-of-Rights infringements also.

 

Keep in mind that Obamacare is one of the Tea Parties' signature issues, along with out of control spending, taxes and abrogation of constitutional law and liberties. Obamacare embodies all of that.

 

Many, many Tea Partiers protested and told their legislators in no uncertain terms that they wanted no part of Obamacare. Lesson learned: that doesn't work. But political action and election campaigning did later, resulting in the largest legislative shift in most of our lifetimes.  So why did we even have Friday's event? To evoke the spirit of TEA PARTY 2009 and signal "game on." This Tea Party has always, from day 1, focused on political awareness and activity. This year will be no exception. Contact us if you want to work on the healthcare o other issues: tea@venturacountyteaparty.com

 

Obamacare has been both a victory and defeat.

- A defeat, in that it was rammed down our throats in conflict with constitutional law, principles of liberty, economic sense, freedom, choice and free enterprise.

- a victory, in that it ignited the largest civil protests in history and resulted in an earthshaking shift of power in the government in the 2010 elections. The latest unconstitutional ruling is guaranteed to affect the election in our favor, so JUMP on it!

 

Impressions

 

There was much discussion about what to do about it. Since I was circulating around at the rally and talking to various people, I'll attempt to summarize what was discussed (add your comments below):

- All were opposed to Obamacare, except 4 hecklers

- Vast majority were dismayed by the SCOTUS ruling.

- Most realized that it will be exceedingly hard to repeal Obamacare, even with a small absolute Senate majority (60 vote cloture rule?), along with House and Presidency control. Some say that ruling means cloture rule doesn't apply. Anyone know?

- Some suggest House defunding of Obamacare, something Boehner has refused to do so far.  This may be our best option now.

- The situation does permit states to refuse Medicaid expansion, something CA is unlikely to take advantage of, unless forced to by bankruptcy.

_ Most expected that "The Mandate" would be stricken, but most of the rest of the law would be upheld, subjected to battering in the coming years, if not repealed.

- Most thought that the ruling will help us in the election, although California may be a lost cause electorally.

- Some thought it was good that the ruling set limits on future invocations of the Commerce Clause to justifyt unlimited govt. expansion.

-  Most felt the the ruling was a disaster, that Roberts abandoned us at the worst possible time, that it was disingenuous at best to claim it is actually a tax and to rewrite the law from the bench, when all have previously specifically said it was NOT a tax.

 

The Opposition


Having hecklers is a sign that you're attracting attention. We had a total of 4:

- 3 had a crudely lettered cardboard sign with obscentities, a de facto admission of rhetorical defeat.

- 1 stated that Obamacare had saved his life. Upon inquiry, we learned that the early adoption of accepting prior conditions may have indeed enabled life saving treatments. Many Republicans already agree with that and wanted it in reforms, but are unwilling to tolerate all the other baggage which come with Obamacare. 

 

Passing cars mostly signaled support by a large margin, but opposition was more strident than during previous events. The civil split is becoming more and more evident.

 

As far as the impact on the presidential election? O's large entitlement constituency is sure to love it, but opponents outnumber them now and will be energized by this.

Obamacare Tax Ruling - A Day After

An Obama clone in attendance

Increasing fiscal instability caused by uncontrolled spending/debt will eventually undermine things, but not before this year's elections. It is evident that Obamacare, just like Medicare, will cost far more than the mendacious estimates provided.

 

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Comment by Ventura Patriot on July 5, 2012 at 2:24pm

John:  Can't disagree with what you say. Next action is Tenth Amendment nullification. the founders put it and 2nd Amendment in as last resorts before revolution.  Hopefully those will work, or it's a bleak  future indeed. The people who read stuff like this site are not the problem. It's the vast majority who ignore this stuff, until it's too late. We are right now like Germany in the early  1930's. We could stop it.

Comment by John P. Sinek on July 5, 2012 at 11:03am

Thanks, George. And thanks for continuing to hammer at all this with your blogs and rallies and events. It's no small effort on your part whatsoever.

So now that yet another critical girder of our republic has been snapped by the vermin in our government, what do you or anybody suppose is the prognosis? I've been playing this all out over the last few months and all my scenarios gravitate to the same end. Maybe there'll be elections in November, and maybe Mitt will win, but even given that...

Find myself musing that if only we had been hit several times more since 9/11, maybe a critical mass would have been awakened. To anyone who thinks this unkind, consider how much more peaceful it will be to go gently into that good night with the last memory being of the sociopathic musloid atheist, Hussein, grinning from ear to ear. I don't think hell is hot enough for the likes of him.

Comment by Ventura Patriot on July 2, 2012 at 8:24am

Great report, John!

Comment by John P. Sinek on July 2, 2012 at 8:14am
These are the events of Friday afternoon, where I attended a rally by the Ventura Tea Party of which I am a member. It's long, but you may find it interesting, especially the end.
 
Just some very brief background: Obamacare was recently upheld by the Supreme Joke...I mean Court. Robert's ruling (the swing vote, thank you very much, W) was that, indeed, the mandate is merely a tax for not buying insurance, despite the copiously repeated lie that it absolutely was not a tax while it was being debated. Regardless, it's unconstitutional on its face. You'll have to read your constitution to understand why. Read here for more on the court's decision if interested.
 
The law is some 2,000 pages. It grants the government absolutely mind-boggling and intrusive control over every detail of your personal life, including your bank accounts. Tens of thousands of new IRS agents are now being hired to enforce the tax regulation. This is only the beginning of what this sock-pupppet monster and his backers intend to do.
 
 
Following are the events of Friday. Interesting encounter at the end.
 
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I went to a Ventura County Tea Party rally today (Friday afternoon). Eye opening, really, at how the landscape has become so filled with animosity. Yeah, we got a lot of horns, more thumbs up and waves than thumbs down or birds, but there's something else. Quite a few roadies expressed contempt at us, and a few of them even pulled up, opened their windows and got pretty angry. One lady didn't know what was going on, but had the decency to ask and then seemed to kinda get it and like it. It's hard to explain the Constitution in 20 seconds. The public schools have done an absolutely stellar job of killing every vestige of independent thought and children's natural innocence and replacing the pledge, the Bible, and the Constitution with condom rolling and sodomy lessons.
 
Talked with an atheist there who was part of the Tea Party and had a sign saying, "The Catholic Church Will Not Comply." Nice lady. I asked her why she was holding the sign. She said it's because she believes in religious freedom. I explained to her there really is no such thing as an atheist and that it takes belief just to draw breath. What you're "not" believing in is not God. She thought that was cute and smiled. Said she could see a tail on Obama and that he was satanic, and then became bemused by her own "belief" in the devil.
 
One non Tea Party guy--the lone dissenter--was there with a sign saying "Obamacare saved my life." Claims that he got some surgery for an anuerism using Obamacare. So either he doesn't know what he's talking about or the card he presented to us means that Obamacare has already been implemented in practice, at least in part, for some time. The poor guy had a deep scar in his chest. His cute son was there, just a kid of about 5 or so. I explained to him that doctors are now leaving the field in droves, and he was condemning his son to a lifetime of pain and suffering and early death because there will be no healthcare worth speaking of. Explained also that Canadians have to wait for 6 or more months for fairly routine treatment, and that they often come down to the states to get their medicine because of the efficiency of our market. Wouldn't make a hair's breadth worth of difference. He said that Obamacare saved his life and that it would save his son's life in the future.
 
I am not amazed anymore by people's inability to see the sun. It has to do with the plane on which they are focusing. And the only thing that determines that is one's own will. Has nothing to do with facts, figures, or "reality." The words in the dictionary can be arranged to make statements of truth and statements of lies with equal ease.
 
Nothing in life is real, but one knows whether one's own life is a dream or a nightmare. At the end when we were leaving, a group of 5 homosexual boys, about 18-22 years old in my estimation, had a sign pointing to us saying "F*** these guys." I asked them why they hated so much? One of them seemed more willing to talk to me than the others, if "talk" is what you want to call it. He said the word "f***" on the sign doesn't mean we hate you--it means we "f***" you. So I asked him if he believed in God, and he laughed and mocked me. So I told him that when he has a moment to himself, just close his eyes and pay attention to that "spark" that is deep inside--that's God! So he exclaimed intense frustration and foaming anger at my stupidity in not knowing the brain is just electricity and chemicals.
 
I had to walk to my car and they were going the same way, so I decided to continue the conversation. All the while this is going on the entire group's demeanor and words were animalistic and taunting and hostile and acridly contemptuous. I could see what animosity deep inside was gnawing his soul. Really, very evident. His actions, his manners, his speech, and the groups' constant taunts and murmurs like "I'd like to f*** you in the ass." Still, beneath it all was the barest glimmer of a soul wanting to be free, because he kept talking with me, in contradistinction with what the others were doing and saying on their own more or less.
 
So I told him to look up in the sky. I said, "You don't believe in God, right?" He said, "No" in a manner utterly filled with derision." I said, "You're right. God doesn't exist. He's not a thing that floats in the sky." He seemed shocked for a brief moment that I said that. "Close your eyes and pay attention to that spark that tells you you're alive inside. That's God's voice." Again, the angry, urgent, exasperation of telling me that the brain is only electricity and chemicals.
 
The words don't really tell the story--you had to see these kids' behavoir and demeanor to realize how dead inside they were. Don't know if one scintilla of a spark got into him, but it's eye-opening to see how deeply in a prison some people have buried their souls. And it was obvious he knew it, too, and actually wanted to hear something, if for only a brief moment and through the din of noise in his heart.
 
It's more and more obvious to me now that the only hope of saving this country (or any for that matter) is through God and making God known. A lot of people's lives are really dark. That darkness is now rising.
Comment by Susan Savas-Kline on July 1, 2012 at 9:05am

We will not rest! Great post George.

I think the Republican alternative will be a step-by-step approach to improve our health care system. Of course step 1 is obama-out. 

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4. ammo
.....in that order!

 

"The actual need for a service, its relevance and value is always subordinate to the bureaucracy. This is the difference from the private sector: you go into a shop, and the sales assistant asks, 'Can I be of assistance to you, sir?' You go into a government agency: 'Get to the back of the queue and wait until you are called!”'

-       Alistair Mcleod

 

 

 "Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline."  

– Barack Hussein Obama 

 

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

-Oscar Wilde

 

“Anyone with an Obama 2012 Bumper Sticker is a Threat to the Gene Pool”

Congressman Allen West

 

“The Only People Who Don’t Want to Disclose the Truth are Those with Something to Hide."

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro

 

"If it takes a village to raise your kid, you’re in the wrong country."

-  Seen by Tim Clack II

  

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Soebarkah Bounel

  

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum. " 

- Noam Chomsky

  

"Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself." -

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro (we are, Barry)

 

"…whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force…"

Thomas Jefferson, Federal v. Consolidated Government

 

“Better to be paralyzed from the neck down than the neck up”

Charles Krauthammer.

 

"Sublata causa, tollitur effectus" (Remove the  cause and the effect will cease)

 "Civilization and anarchy are only seven meals apart"                          

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