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In general, both gave too many soundbites, not enough specifics.


Meg had better command of the facts, Didn't have to defend a terrible record like Brown, took the offensive. Meg's indulgent smile while Moonbeam was talking was devastating,

She was right about the water bond being very important, but seemed to imply that nothing could be done about the Central Valley water shut off (a "tragedy").

She excused her buying the nomination by claiming it keeps her "independent," Yeah, but are we?

Both claimed that they could make 15-20% cuts, in operating budgets, renegotiate pensions and comp.

Meg focused on:

- Jobs- tax cuts, dereg, slow down AB32 (not stop), untangle reg's, use technology (how?) (Meg came out AGAINST Prop 23 last week).

- Increase govt efficiency

- Get schools back in order

This week, she is tougher on immigration again, stopping illegal employment


Funny, no questions about her Goldman Sachs scandals, firings, Spanish billboards dissing Prop 187 and SB 1070, actual performance in industry, love of Van Jones, Support of Barbara Boxer, membership in CFR, huge contributions to left wing causes, favor of abortion.


Brown seemed a little feeble, even a bit punch-drunk. He's gonna bring the state back with green jobs and finance everything on the backs of "the wealthy." (that's us).


He is clearly anti-business, anti-wealthy, pro-union, anti-death penalty, beholden to unions.

He has a record of higher taxes, higher debt, higher crime, crumbling education, in CA and Oakland. As Atty-General, he:

- Dropped the ACORN case

- Failed to defend Prop 8

- Failed to move on election fraud, with Bowen

- failed to sue over Obama care and state unfunded liabilities

Media version:


LA Times


Brown was well ahead of Meg before the debate:



Third Party Governor candidate Chelene Nightingale did an interview on John and Ken show before that. Did rather well.

She covered

- Immigration- best plan of the three

-- Deploy CA Military Reserve to border-- immediately

-- Bring back Prop 187- has legal strategy

-- Block illegal jobs

- Encourage business

-- Cut corp tax 50%

-- Elim transfer fee

- -Create friendly business climate, deregulate

- -Prop 23

- Fight CA Obama care impact, including unfunded liabilities

- Budget

-- Reduce impact of $22 BB illegal immigrant impact

- -Revamp public empl comp/pensions, move to 401K's

-- Privatize prisons
- Water- Turn it back on, people more important than fish. We have enough to do that. Arrest Fed agents that try to block her.

- Supports Prop 23, hates AB32, would shut down, curtail "environmental terrorism committees"

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Comment by Ventura Patriot on October 23, 2010 at 9:33pm
Utter nonsense Johnson. Learn economics - and history.

Learn about the Rubin/Clinton initiation of the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Learn about Democrats blocking reform of FNME, FRE, and Social Security. Learn how both parties kited our national obligations to $121 TRILLION, not the paltry $13 T usually presented. Learn how SS and Medicare are both totally unsustainable.

Mortgage non-payments are still rising. There are millions of homes that should have been foreclosed and haven't been, for various reasons of technical and financial fraud. I won't even get into commercial real estate, car loans and credit cards. The big banks are bankrupt, which is masked by dropping "mark to market" accounting (see, Democrats eliminate regulations, too, when it suits them) and reducing real interest rates to negative levels. Meanwhile, bank credit spreads are at a record high. Let the good times roll!

Debt is increasing at astronomical rates. It is long since past the time when Obozo, Pelosi & Reid could blame Bush. They are piling on obligations, new entitlements, taxes and regulatory restrictions totally unrelated to Bush era activities.

Having a Marxist "President" and far left stooges in Congress has a way of making that happen. Fortunately, the House will flip this year and we shall stop the Obama agenda cold in its tracks, although we may have a disastrous "lame duck session" first.

Learn how unchecked illegal immigration has added many, many billions to our obligations. Learn How Greenspan and the Fed mismanaged the money supply and interest rates, helping to make things far, far worse. Learn how the Federal Reserve, a private corporation, has a license to print free money and loan it back to us, keeping us in perpetual debt bondage.

Learn how CRA and community organizers, like Obozo, helped drive us off a cliff with subprime. Learn how both parties failed to regulate bank reserve requirements, margin trading and derivatives, to really blow up things -- soon to get worse.

Learn why the price of gold has risen from $35/oz to over $1300, since I was in college. Learn how there was near hyperinflation in the 1970's, stopped by Volcker and Reagan in the 1980's.

Learn that Obozo and a left-wing Congress have added $3 trillion to the national debt in his 1st 1 1/2 years-- possibly $10 trillion more in off-balance sheet obligations. This does not include additional unfunded liabilities added to SS/Medicare/drug program, which are all negative cash flow now-- soon to get worse with Boomer retirements and Obamacare.

Learn that the Gingrich Congress balanced the budget for the first time in decades. Unfortunately the Repub and Dem Congresses that followed it reversed those surpluses-- and thensome.

You also forget that the Senate voted 75% to allow Bush to engage in the aforesaid war on terror and funded the budgets to pay for it. Only later did they try to get us to forget that. I haven't. We have videos to prove it. Personally, I don't think we could afford it either, but trying to heap partisan blame is mendacious.

You may get away with such logical sloppiness and lies on, DNC, HuffPo, etc., but not here, fella.

The economy is far from "on the mend." The number of unemployed is rising. The headline number of 9.6% does NOT include those whose unemployment payments have run out, even with an extension to 99 weeks, or those not looking for work, or the self employed idle, or underemployed. Clinton changed that metric and Bush lacked the balls to revert to the more honest way. Actual unemployment ranges from 18-to 20-something percent, slightly higher in CA.

May I remind you that the vast majority of bank and Wall St political contributions went to Democrats in the last big election year, at least those that left a paper trail?

We already in a depression, fella, masked by fraudulent reporting numbers from our own govt. don’t believe it? Go look it up on, which uses pre-Bubba metrics for the economy.

The 9.6% unemployment is more like 20

The 1.5% "inflation" is no 6-8%. have you bought any groceries lately?

The true financial obligations are more like $121 TRILLION

We borrow 40 cents for every dollar of budget. Additional off-balance sheet liabilities are being incurred in TARP, FDIC, Fed, FNME, FRE and who knows where/what else. We don't even know the real numbers, because our Congress will not hold them, or themselves, accountable.

It's even worse for CA.\. The"$19 billion deficit is more like $36 billion. But, we can't print money like the Fed-- maybe actually a blessing.

Eventually, it will get harder to sell treasuries, pushing up rates, which will take us down-- way down. I hope you didn't actually believe the "Summer of Recovery" lies from the Obozo administration. Do you think that rats like Summers and Romer scurried off the sinking ship right before the election because we're in a "recovery?" LMAO. Do you even know who Summers and Romer are? Don't forget Rahm, who took advantage of a good crisis to exit, too.
Comment by Bonfire on October 23, 2010 at 8:33pm
They are running scared infiltrating our forums.

Check out the way these progressives spend Our taxpayer money and blow American jobs.

Obama Underwrites Offshore Drilling

Barack and Michelle's Mumbai darshan plans $$$
Comment by Ventura Patriot on October 23, 2010 at 8:32pm
I had my fill of Socialist nonsense today, watching Lois Capps read her talking points, er, "debate" at SBCC against Watson and Hager.

By the way, it's two terms not 2 years, David, although two years might be better.
Comment by AzPatriot on October 23, 2010 at 8:26pm
Comment by David M Stewart on October 23, 2010 at 8:21pm
Hey Paul H. Johnson Agoura Hills, CA 22Oct2010
You probably think that FDR saved the country from the first great depression. Well only in the dreams of the revisionist progressive liberal fascist historians. Why do you think the first thing they did when he left his mortal coil was to pass an amendment to term limit presidents to two years. Because he was a hero who saved the country? No, because he was a megalomaniac who couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.
Comment by Bonfire on October 23, 2010 at 8:20pm

Comment by David M Stewart on October 23, 2010 at 8:16pm
Hey Paul H. Johnson Agoura Hills, CA 22Oct2010
You are a progressive liberal fascist liar out to protect your own power and the plunder of those who create value. You really really think you know what is right for other people's money? Crawl back into your slimy socialist hole and stop stealing from those who work and create value. Every time the government spends money to create a job they have plundered that money from the private sector, scraped some off into their own pockets and totally f****d up putting it back into the economy. Every time private wealth makes the circle through the government back to the private economy there is less of it. The laboratory of the the total control of progressive liberal fascists is Detroit. Remember Detroit? They are having to plow it under because it was so trashed by the progressive liberal fascists like yourself. You are not kind and generous, you are evil and sick and monumentally mentally defective. Was I clear enough?
Comment by Paul H. Johnson on October 23, 2010 at 2:08pm
The Democratic Party and the effective leadership of Barack Obama, 44th President of the United States saved the United States from having a Second Great Depression.

Vote Republican if you want to remove regulations, like environmental regulations and financial regulations and employment regulations. Bush Jr failed to effectively regulate the financial industry, which caused a real estate bubble and a financial crisis that hurt Americans. People working in Wall Street made record salaries and bonuses in 2007 and the same in 2008, record salaries and bonuses in 2009, and Wall Street is on track to bring home record salaries and bonuses in 2010 ($144B to be taken). Wall Street “Gordon Gekko” types have reason to Vote Republican. Do you?

Vote Republican if you like your tax dollars transferred to Corporations and the Military-Industrial Complex. Defense budget in 2000: $282B. Defense budget in 2009: $698B -- Department of Defense $515B, plus War on Terror $145B, plus Homeland Security $38B. This $698B does not include Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan which are special appropriations not listed in the budget and cost over One Thousand Billion Dollars to date. Do you feel safer for the extra $400 Billion Dollars spent Per Year? The Republican Party of Fear—The Smoking Gun, The Mushroom Cloud. Bush Jr often said during the 2000 presidential campaign: “America Must Prepare for War” and “I want to be a Wartime President”. Bush Jr delivered on those campaign promises, and us taxpayers got the bill and got killed. “Weapons of Mass Destruction” – a total fabrication, a lie.

In 1968, representatives of Republican candidate Richard Nixon convinced South Vietnam not to make peace, promising better terms after Nixon wins the White House. Bush Sr, without Reagan’s approval, cut a deal with Iran to supply weapons if the hostages were not freed until after the 1980 presidential election. These actions by Republicans to influence US Foreign Policy violate the Constitution. Only the President can make “treaties” with foreign governments. The Republicans lied to the American People regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama voted against invading Iraq. Obama ended US military combat involvement in Iraq. If you like war, Vote Republican.

The Republican Party of No. The Republican Party of Liars. The Republican Party of Trashing the US Constitution. The Republican Party of Two Unnecessary Wars. The Republican Party of The Great Recession (George Bush Jr) and The Great Depression (Harding and Coolidge).

The economy is on the mend, thanks to President Barack Obama and the Democrats. Sure, unemployment is still high. Companies that laid people off are just starting to rehire. State and Local governments are still laying people off. Many recent college graduates are jobless. This unemployment is the legacy of Republican President George Bush Jr.

Don’t get misled by “the polls” and the unrelenting Obama bashing by the “mainstream media” like Fox News and right wing extremists. The Republicans led the USA into a Financial Crisis. Obama stabilized the financial industry, and put the USA on the road to Renewed Prosperity. Obama healthcare is an improvement--at least the insurance companies cannot cancel your coverage when you get ill, claiming that you had "a preexisting condition". The Democratic Party of the New Deal promotes social progress and wholesome living for All Americans.

The economy is on the mend—US companies are reporting profits, sales growth, and plans to hire more Americans. Look at the stock market, which is almost back to pre-financial crisis levels. If you want a government that serves All Americans, Vote Democratic! If you want a government that tells the truth, Vote Democratic!

Signed: Paul H. Johnson Agoura Hills, CA 22Oct2010
Comment by Bobby Florentz on October 3, 2010 at 10:15pm
If either one of them wins the exodus from CA will be huge!
Comment by Ventura Patriot on October 3, 2010 at 10:14pm
Bobby: Toothless? Unless you get your campaign into overdrive soon, it will probably be Moonbeam in power and he will be far from toothless. He is clearly more in the big labor, left wing soicial issues, progressive welfare state, camp than even Meg.

However, they both like cap and trade, both soft on illegal immigration, both were for barbara boxer in 2004, both love van Jones. i suspect Meg is much softer on fighting tax increases tha she told Howard Jarvis.

No matter who is elected, the state is going down, hard. The budget deal was a farce and ignores an additional $20BB in deficits over what they said. It will be a matter of who is assigned to pick up the pieces. If Prop 25 passes, we have BIG problems. I'm not sure I want to stay here and fund their tax and spend dreams.


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"Sublata causa, tollitur effectus" (Remove the  cause and the effect will cease)

 "Civilization and anarchy are only seven meals apart"                          

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