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ACTION ALERT! Ventura County Board of Supervisors Meeting

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ACTION ALERT! Ventura County Board of Supervisors Meeting

Time: March 1, 2011 from 10:30am to 12pm
Location: Ventura County Government Center. Hall of Administration Building (Not Hall of Justice)- We don't know the room number, but the reception desk will be able to tell attendees which room it will be in. I JUST HEARD IT IS IN THE BOARDROOM
Street: 800 South Victoria Avenue
City/Town: Ventura, CA 93009-0003
Website or Map: http://ca.lp.org/vclp/events/…
Event Type: governmemt, meeting
Latest Activity: Mar 1, 2011

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In Ventura County there is a critical issue brewing that warrants our united stance and a vigilant response. Recently brought to the attention of the Ventura County Libertarian Party is a particular challenge to private property rights, in which the interests of labor, agriculture and business are being assaulted. New regulations currently under County consideration may jeopardize the financial stability of County farmers and ranchers unless we get involved now.

YOUR ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING IS CRITICAL

Please come out and oppose these new onerous regulations being supported by Linda Parks.

The Board is seeking to revise the County Grading Ordinance, which could have enormous implications to common agricultural practices such as plowing, disking (cultivating soil by turning and loosening) and brush-clearing. VC COLAB hopes to positively influence the revisions that the Ventura County Public Works Agency will be making to ensure that regulation of common farming practices will not result in financial hardship for County farmers and ranchers.

Note change:

http://www.colabvc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/VC-COLAB-Biology-ISAG-Letter-to-Planning-Director-2-17-11s.pdf

 

2/24: It appears that the battle is on for March 1.

Let's try to get a good turnout to offset the progressive momementum.

 

Read More about this issue HERE.

or Visit VC COLAB for a full explanation of the issue.

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Comment by Ventura Patriot on March 1, 2011 at 5:02pm

Well, that was a  VERY long (1030-330) session, with one 15 mineute break.

 We got a good turnout of tea party people: Lana, Susan, Joyce, June, Sally, Dana, Flavio, Lauren and others. I spoke, as did several Libertarians including Dana, Flavio and Lauren. When Lana was called on to speak, much, much later, she had already left. Many farmers and ag ind. people spoke, including environmentalists, who were not all extreme greens.

 

GOP was not involved. I was told it is not their policy to get involved in such issues.

The Supervisors voted to defer action  on it pending further work by the stakeholders.

 

It was apparent that these affected were under numerous other regulatory burdens and that this is a proverbial straw to break the camel's back.

 

The greens kept claiming that it is only minor change, that it formalizes de facto changes, that it must be done to conform to state laws.   They also tried to greatly narrow the scope of our challenge.

Comment by Dana McLorn on February 26, 2011 at 8:22pm
We would like to see it as well. They added 29 pages at the last minute. You can go to the VC COLAB website to learn more.
Comment by Ventura Patriot on February 26, 2011 at 4:51pm

"Silly local ordinances?" I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the nature of what they are attempting, the related legal issues and the much larger Agenda 21 underlying their campaign "locally," in Ventura County, as well as part of a much larger, coordinated worldwide campaign.

 

Even a silly little 140,000 acres in insignificant little Ventura County isn't chopped liver.

 

The bailouts and stimulus are only the point at which Joe Sixpack bestrirred from his Rip Van Winkle-like slumber. The problems are far broader and go back longer than that.

 

Again, I suggest that you read our mission statement.

Comment by James Walter Layne on February 26, 2011 at 4:49pm

Thanks for the info, Dana.  I'd love to see the proposed ordinance.  

However, wouldn't this argument apply to all zoning ordinances?  Don't they all in some way restrict people from using private property in certain ways?

I'd like to know more about the issue and reserve judgment until then.  Does anyone know if the proposed ordinance is online?  Thanks!

 

p.s.  I agree that the Bill of Rights is not a full list of our rights. But likewise, the Constitution is not a full list of the powers of government. It is only a list of federal powers.  The States (and by extension, the localities) have every other power reserved.  This is expressed in the Tenth Amendment. 

Comment by Dana McLorn on February 26, 2011 at 3:40pm
This is an attempt to deprive farmers [and other property owners] of the use of their property without due process. They aren't taking the deed from you. But they hope to limit your use to a point that you are in fact a serf. You will be unable to put the property to profitable use and enjoy the fruits of your labor. The constitution is not a full list of our rights. But rather a limit on the reach of government. When a law or regulation deprives us of our "natural rights" the people must declare it invalid and a usurpation liberty. This is why the Bill of Rights declares it's intent is not to deny or disparage any rights enjoyed by the people. This is not a "silly local law" but rather part of a larger agenda to take our individual liberty's. If we do not fight to maintain our property rights we are truly on Hayek's road to serfdom.
Comment by James Walter Layne on February 26, 2011 at 3:08pm

Appreciate that too, George.  I see your point. However, I just look to what the very essence of the Tea Party is, and it is not a reaction to silly local ordinances or anything of the sort.  It came about as a result of the bank bailouts, stimulus package, etc.. all the "last straw," so to speak, in federal usurpation and reckless spending.  In my opinion, the very strength of the Tea Party is that it's a grassroots movement, that it doesn't have a central authority... but this is also potentially a great and even fatal weakness, because it will inevitably drift off into so many other matters that are not of concern to the movement as a whole... this will ultimately ensure its demise.  

 

I see your point that liberals at all levels of government have a disregard for the rights of private property.  However, States have far greater proper legal power over the disposition of private property rights than the Federal government. That's what makes it such a fundamentally different issue.  

 

Is someone arguing that the zoning ordinance violates either the U.S. or State Constitution?  Is there anywhere we can look at the text of the ordinance?   

Comment by Ventura Patriot on February 26, 2011 at 2:58pm

I'm with Dana. Read our Mission Satement in the "Read Me" section. We are about restoring a Constitutional Republic, not just about taxes and certainly not just about the federal level. Some say all politics are local.

 

Restricting property rights is definitely a huge liberty issue, even a huge Constititional issue.  It seems well within our mission, although I also recognize that we can't become too unfocused. We have not concentrated on parking meters and plastic bags, like other Tea Parties have, but can also recocognize them as legitimate issues. The question is, how many battles can we fight and which ones matter most?

Comment by Dana McLorn on February 26, 2011 at 2:41pm
While I agree with having the TEA party stick to it's uniting principles [Taxes, spending/debt and following the constitution] we must keep in mind that these violations are not limited to Washington D.C. In Jefferson's draft of the deceleration of independence he used Life, liberty and property as examples of our natural rights. The latter is what is being taken in this case. This is all part of the international progressive agenda "21". Our enemy knows no borders in this fight. Will we stand aside as our rights are deprived? Would Sam Adams and our founders not fought this injustice as well? It is time we realized our enemy is well organized and is pushing their agenda at all levels of our government[and schools]. We must stand up and say NO! Before this progressive beast devours the nation our forefathers gave us. Please stand up for liberty.
Comment by James Walter Layne on February 26, 2011 at 2:40pm
By the way Sue, that's a good argument for getting involved at the local level.  I appreciate that argument.  I still think we should do so individually. When an organization mixes its message, it necessarily weakens it.
Comment by James Walter Layne on February 26, 2011 at 2:37pm
The difference is that local and state governments have the authority to do a great deal more than the federal government.  State governments are general in authority; the federal government on the other hand has only the particular powers given it by the States in the Constitution.  So you're dealing with apples and oranges. Health care is an example... a state can do healthcare reform (within limits of course).. the federal government cannot, however, because it doesn't have authority to do so in the Constitution.  That's my main point, and for this reason I think it's not good to use the Tea Party for more local issues.  It is VERY good, however, for Tea Party "members" to get involved in local issues, especially ones where important property rights are at stake.  Does this make sense?

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They want a new Muslim leader, Give them ours. 

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“The States then being the parties to the constitutional compact, and in their sovereign capacity, it follows of necessity, that there can be no tribunal above their authority, to decide in the last resort, whether the compact made by them be violated; and consequently that as the parties to it, they must themselves decide in the last resort, such questions as may be of sufficient magnitude to require their interposition.” – James Madison 

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Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson

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referring to 10-3-12 debate: "Obama made a lot of good points tonight. Unfortunately, most of them were for Romney." - Bill Maher, million dollar Obama donor

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...the U.S. debt was at 9.5 trillion instead of 15.5 trillion?

...gas was $1.89 a gallon?

...the U.S. was friends with Isreal?

...food Stamp Recipients was at 29 million instead of 46 million?

...U.S. Astronauts didn't have to travel with Russians to go into space?

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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts, NOT to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln

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"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."---- Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) 40th US President


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“The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.”
--Author Tom Clancy

 

But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace. "  

- Thomas Paine.

 

"Look, the Taliban, per se, is not our enemy.”

- VP Joe Biden
December 2011

 

"The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and for people, equally in war and peace, and it covers with its shield of protection all classes of men, at all times and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of men that any of its great provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government."

– Ex Parte Milligan (1866)

 

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I remain, dear sir,
Your faithful friend and servant,

John Jay. 

 

Calling Ron Paul "out of the mainstream" is a double-edged sword, because it also means he can’t possibly be responsible for the condition of the country today. 

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 A guy named Reggie Love leaving the White House to get a degree at the Wharton School of Business. I guess he realized you can't learn anything about economics in the Obama White House.

- Jay Leno

Laws and regulations which violate the Constitution are not obligatory upon any free man. 

(believed to be from George Washington.)

 

  “We’re at that awkward stage where it’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.”

- Claire Wolf

 

Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the chairman of the National Transitional Council and de fact president, had already declared that Libyan laws in future would have Sharia, the Islamic code, as its "basic source".
-       The Telegraph (good job Barack!) 

 

Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable     - Robert F. Kennedy

 

 "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -- Albert Einstein

  

The four boxes of LIBERTY:
1. soap
2. ballot
3. jury
4. ammo
.....in that order!

 

"The actual need for a service, its relevance and value is always subordinate to the bureaucracy. This is the difference from the private sector: you go into a shop, and the sales assistant asks, 'Can I be of assistance to you, sir?' You go into a government agency: 'Get to the back of the queue and wait until you are called!”'

-       Alistair Mcleod

 

 

 "Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline."  

– Barack Hussein Obama 

 

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

-Oscar Wilde

 

“Anyone with an Obama 2012 Bumper Sticker is a Threat to the Gene Pool”

Congressman Allen West

 

“The Only People Who Don’t Want to Disclose the Truth are Those with Something to Hide."

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro

 

"If it takes a village to raise your kid, you’re in the wrong country."

-  Seen by Tim Clack II

  

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

-Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Soebarkah Bounel

  

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum. " 

- Noam Chomsky

  

"Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself." -

- Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro (we are, Barry)

 

"…whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force…"

Thomas Jefferson, Federal v. Consolidated Government

 

“Better to be paralyzed from the neck down than the neck up”

Charles Krauthammer.

 

"Sublata causa, tollitur effectus" (Remove the  cause and the effect will cease)

 "Civilization and anarchy are only seven meals apart"                          

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